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Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Thank you very much for the feedback everyone! This is going to be extremely helpful as we start modifying job families and outlining career progression for core staff at MSU. 

Mary

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

We created a core-specific job family at my institution in 2023.  For context, we are an independent research institution with centralized cores, and all core directors are staff.  The goal was to create career pathways and recognize the skills unique to core facilities; thus, the base education qualification for most, but not all, positions is a bachelor's degree.  I've attached the full family with their full qualifications criteria, but here is the list. All are exempt positions, except Core Technician. I'm working on one more non-exempt position that will have high school or equivalent as its base education qualification for undergraduates who need to transition from intern to staff.

Core Director I-II-III
Associate Core Director (for larger cores; no levels, but want to add them)
Core Laboratory Manager I-II-III
Core Project Manager I-II-III
Core Administrator I-II-III
Core Bioinformatics Scientist I-II-III
Core Bioinformatics Analyst I-II-III
Core Biostatistician I-II-III
Core Scientist I-II-III
Core Associate I-II-III
Core Technician I-II-III (non-exempt)

Thank you very much for the feedback everyone! This is going to be extremely helpful as we start modifying job families and outlining career progression for core staff at MSU. 

Mary

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi all,

This is something that I would love to explore at our University.  I would definitely love to join any virtual discussion as Anoja mentioned!

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi all,

This is something that I would love to explore at our University.  I would definitely love to join any virtual discussion as Anoja mentioned!

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Like Anoja, I was promoted from manager of the core to director, but I had to really make a case for the title change. I am a strong believer in encouraging promotion and career growth within the core, but I agree that it is a big challenge.

Claire

Hi Mary,

I am late to this conversation but hope this is still useful. I have only seen it one time where a manager became an Assistant Director and that was because the Center did not have a director for several years, so the manager was acting as a director during that time. After a while the manager officially became the Assistant Director, and he did not have a Ph.D. For our University the Director has to be a Ph.D because of the FTE associated with directing a lab. They retain 0.70 FTE of their faculty appointment and allocate 0.30 FTE to the Director position. They usually have students, conduct their own research and teach. It is very hard and expensive to have a full time Director position and support their salary 100% from the core budget. 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input! 

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Mary Gauvin
RED Service Centers Director - Core Facilities
Montana State University
Bozeman MT
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Hi all,

   I am hoping that a few of you could share what your institution's career progression looks like for core facility managers. Do you ever have a title change? And is there ever any jump into "assistant director" positions, or do you keep the director title (and variants) for faculty only? Thanks for your input!