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  • 1.  PI gives half an instrument to a core

    Posted 3 days ago

    Hello,

    I was wondering if anyone has experience with a PI giving half an instrument to a core. Is that allowable? Can the core retain half of the capacity of an instrument, and the PI retain the other half for thier own personal use?



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    Andy Chitty
    Executive Director, MGB Research Cores
    Mass General Brigham
    Boston MA
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  • 2.  RE: PI gives half an instrument to a core

    Posted 3 days ago

    Are they asking for specific days? Is this a new piece of equipment being purchased? who is covering the maintenance contract or other associated costs?



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    Meghan Kraft
    Director of Research Core Facilities
    University of North Carolina
    Chapel Hill NC
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  • 3.  RE: PI gives half an instrument to a core

    Posted 3 days ago
    Edited by Andy Chitty 3 days ago

    Nothing concrete yet. I'm just wondering if it's compliant at all to split up the use of an instrument whereby a PI keeps some time - such as specific days - for themself, and lets the core use it for fee-for-service on other days/times, etc. It's a possibility, but of course all the details you mention have to be worked out. 



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    Andy Chitty
    Executive Director, MGB Research Cores
    Mass General Brigham
    Boston MA
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  • 4.  RE: PI gives half an instrument to a core

    Posted 2 days ago

    We have a similar situation. The instrument was purchased jointly by the PI and the Core. The Core is responsible for the service contract, and the instrument is located in a shared space. We do not charge the PI's lab for instrument use. We calculate the time of use for the year and provide complimentary access to the lab for the determined number of hours. Access is not prioritized. Other users are charged for access.



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    Sabrina Terranova
    The Hormell Institute
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  • 5.  RE: PI gives half an instrument to a core

    Posted 2 days ago
    We have done this with a MiSeq. 

    We used it routinely and paid the service contract, while the client could request to come in and set it up at any time (well with a little bit of heads up so we could make sure it was open). 

    To be honest, it wasn't my favorite set up - but I'd say that's mostly for control of the space and having random people in our lab... but we did it for quite a few years. We just ended up selling/giving the instrument back to them (I think they just paid for the moving of it).

    Molly Zeller

    Lab Manager

    UWBC DNA Sequencing Facility

    1322 Biotechnology

    608-616-0370




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  • 6.  RE: PI gives half an instrument to a core

    Posted 2 days ago

    It is really an interesting business model! However, I see red flags all over.

    If you have iLabs (or any type of software) that tracks usage, the PI (reservation/time) will be tracked and at the time of billing you have to make it $0, while other users are paying. These records will be complicated to justify if there is an audit.

    A better model is: the instrument is given to the core, and the PI is given "some funds" to pay for the usage. In that case everything is transparent



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    Marimar Lopez
    Director Research Cores
    RENSSELAER POLYTECHNIC INST
    Troy NY
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  • 7.  RE: PI gives half an instrument to a core

    Posted 2 days ago
    In our case, the client purchased the instrument, we paid the service contract, they paid for the kits and the storage time on servers, but did not have to pay our labor. 

    Molly Zeller

    Lab Manager

    UWBC DNA Sequencing Facility

    1322 Biotechnology

    608-616-0370




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